tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11193658.post421721588208925548..comments2023-08-06T08:38:02.323-05:00Comments on Communion: A Response to the Many Student CommentsJeff Kursonishttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00686792279384350024noreply@blogger.comBlogger19125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11193658.post-69584084239506962952007-04-25T16:24:00.000-05:002007-04-25T16:24:00.000-05:00Dear Sir,You mentioned that it is important to kno...Dear Sir,<BR/><BR/>You mentioned that it is important to know what stream you are in. We at the King’s college know what stream we have entered and have chosen to swim against the current. It was our choice to come here. It was not forced upon us. You’ve cautioned us against joining a stream that we really do not wish to be a part of. That is good advice. However, I believe it is unnecessary. TheAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11193658.post-61611615920727612272007-04-24T23:15:00.000-05:002007-04-24T23:15:00.000-05:00Jeff a.k.a. Mr. Ranting,My turn. :)As a parent of ...Jeff a.k.a. Mr. Ranting,<BR/><BR/>My turn. :)<BR/><BR/>As a parent of one of the so-called "Mormons" it was brought to my attention of your first and second post. <BR/><BR/>Honestly, sir, if you put as much effort into your spirtitual walk as you do your critical remarks, perhaps you will become a respected leader like the "El Presidente" of TKC. <BR/><BR/>Let me ask you a few questions if I may?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11193658.post-45223113195665430702007-04-24T18:11:00.000-05:002007-04-24T18:11:00.000-05:00I haven’t read any of the other comments, so some ...I haven’t read any of the other comments, so some of this may be repeated.<BR/><BR/>1st Anything but fundamentalism Christianity is not Christianity at all. Or rather it is just a cultural activity. We as Christians do and only believe that Jesus is the only way to Heaven. As John Macarthur once said, “What do you not understand about ‘I am the way, the Truth, and the Light and no one comes to Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11193658.post-6339357592064893242007-04-24T17:59:00.000-05:002007-04-24T17:59:00.000-05:00How many Evangelical Christian Colleges do you see...How many Evangelical Christian Colleges do you see going into the heart of New York City?...a place where God has been taken out of the factor on a large scale for many years. Most Christian schools I know of are content to build up their Evangelical empires in the Bible belt in suburban Florida, Illinois, Indiana, or Ohio (I am honestly not bashing these institutions merely making a point)...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11193658.post-35915341093456941282007-04-24T16:58:00.000-05:002007-04-24T16:58:00.000-05:00Jeff,You have grossly distorted many aspects of Th...Jeff,<BR/><BR/>You have grossly distorted many aspects of The King's College, society, the Church, and many other aspects of life. Let's begin:<BR/><BR/>1) Mission Statement of The King's College:<BR/>"Through its commitment to the TRUTHS OF CHRISTIANITY and a BIBLICAL worldview, The King's College seeks to prepare students for careers in which they will help to shape and EVENTUALLY lead Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11193658.post-62068140019230845342007-04-24T15:54:00.000-05:002007-04-24T15:54:00.000-05:00Jeff, I can’t help but think that your mental proc...Jeff, <BR/><BR/>I can’t help but think that your mental processing is backwards.<BR/><BR/>People are afraid. They are running away from the Church—the one community that promises life to the full. I agree. That is, in many circles in our country, happening. Some people are leaving the Church. <BR/><BR/>So let’s get them back in somehow, because we love them and because it hurts us to see them -nance.https://www.blogger.com/profile/01559514545614903875noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11193658.post-75993484976798206602007-04-24T15:33:00.000-05:002007-04-24T15:33:00.000-05:00Time to assess the big picture, Jeff.The office of...Time to assess the big picture, Jeff.<BR/><BR/>The office of prophet has changed quite a bit since the Old Testament. As someone who provided leadership in an emergent church, I am not going to get into speculation with you. I do, however, feel you should allow a community to look to its own prophets.<BR/><BR/>Paul instructs a prophet to prophesy before the body. Assuming he is part of the Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11193658.post-26259124809112878262007-04-24T15:31:00.000-05:002007-04-24T15:31:00.000-05:00Jeff, I will start of by saying that I am deeply d...Jeff, <BR/><BR/>I will start of by saying that I am deeply disappointed that you have given the emergent church such a bad name. I have many friends in this movement, and I too considered myself on the outskirts of it at one time. That is until I read your posts and realized exactly what you advocate. As of right now, I do not want to be grouped into the same category as your beliefs. HoweverSeidshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17844985835271961153noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11193658.post-57224366990072951802007-04-24T13:58:00.000-05:002007-04-24T13:58:00.000-05:00Dear Mr. Kursonis,I'm not really one for intellect...Dear Mr. Kursonis,<BR/><BR/>I'm not really one for intellectual arguments or verbose rebuttals. All I have is my own story and one that I hope shows grace. I grew up in a Christian home but in college became one of these "Barna Revolution Christians." I was deeply cynical of the power grabbing that I saw in the evangelical church as well as the divisiveness in Christian circles. When I Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11193658.post-21358633209476907252007-04-24T12:36:00.000-05:002007-04-24T12:36:00.000-05:00Dear Jeff, I struggled mightily deciding whether o...Dear Jeff, <BR/><BR/>I struggled mightily deciding whether or not your disjointed, rambling, illogical and incoherent blog even warranted a response, but, seeing how so many of my peers decided to so thoroughly ravage your arguments, I knew that I would be in good company in doing so.<BR/><BR/>I could go on about the countless (not much of a hyperbole) logical fallacies in your arguments, or I Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11193658.post-9393232901325870792007-04-24T12:30:00.000-05:002007-04-24T12:30:00.000-05:00Before I write let me say one thing: I haven’t par...Before I write let me say one thing: I haven’t particularly chosen one side of the debate or other. I saw both anger and tact from both sides, and we all scream for our side to be the “right side”. Disagree with me, I’m okay with that. But, in my opinion, both sides of the argument made valid points that must be paid attention to. <BR/><BR/> <BR/><BR/>Big Thought:<BR/><BR/> <BR/><BR/>When I Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11193658.post-80218519629238328682007-04-24T02:49:00.000-05:002007-04-24T02:49:00.000-05:00Also please provide me with a reference in Scriptu...Also please provide me with a reference in Scripture that says that Jesus exclusively works from the bottom up and not the top down...because this is new to me.<BR/><BR/>-Wyatt B.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11193658.post-92064508786109082662007-04-24T02:42:00.000-05:002007-04-24T02:42:00.000-05:00Also another comment (my thoughts always come in w...Also another comment (my thoughts always come in waves) you still seem to think that it is okay to isolate and leave the rich businessmen to themselves...maybe because "they already have everything they don't need God" well guess what that's wrong...it is so easy for the progressive thinking individuals of our nation to bash the rich man and make him the scapegoat of all society's problems...but Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11193658.post-21800666642650852012007-04-24T02:27:00.000-05:002007-04-24T02:27:00.000-05:00Matt said things better than I would have been abl...Matt said things better than I would have been able to<BR/><BR/>I will put what I planned to say in the Churchill blog, Jeff, if you want to check it out there will be a link at the bottom of the page. <BR/><BR/>Please just be careful yourself man. Scripture trains us in ways to distinguish between God-sent and false prophets. <BR/><BR/>My pastor used to say that there are two dogs inside of us,Steve Josephhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17657723761281286430noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11193658.post-19430503466774533422007-04-24T02:07:00.000-05:002007-04-24T02:07:00.000-05:00Jeff, 1. You missed the point entirely, again. Ou...Jeff, <BR/><BR/> 1. You missed the point entirely, again. Our dress-code is not anti-cultural, nor conformist, but simply professionally-cultural. We're on the same side. I think it is plain as day that "Business/Political professionals" and "artists" dress differently. But artists should not be assumed to own the "christian" way of dressing.<BR/><BR/> 2. You cannot claim that the church is both Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11193658.post-29017610269901925102007-04-24T02:01:00.000-05:002007-04-24T02:01:00.000-05:00You are still completely beating around the bush w...You are still completely beating around the bush what you wrote was inappropriate and you need to apologize for it...also you are contradicting yourself in this post by saying that it is so important to be in the right "stream" yet it is so very wrong to say that one "stream" is better than the other? You seem to say that no one has any right to say that their way is the best way yet somehow Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11193658.post-78484821316385396292007-04-24T01:30:00.000-05:002007-04-24T01:30:00.000-05:00I first want to apologize for the incredible exces...I first want to apologize for the incredible excess of repetitive posts from King's students, we have opinions and like to express them.<BR/><BR/>I also want to throw something else out there. Just as Jesus worked from the bottom up, so did Paul from the top down. That was true cross-cultural evangelism. Although I don't know much about your theology, having just learned of the Emergent church Schatzhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08584400630898709429noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11193658.post-88203488435268585432007-04-24T01:17:00.000-05:002007-04-24T01:17:00.000-05:00After reading your response I thought of saying a ...After reading your response I thought of saying a few things.<BR/><BR/>However, I believe Daniel has said everything that needs to be said. <BR/><BR/>May your ministry save many people, I in no way desire to stand in the way of that. <BR/><BR/>When we both stand before God at the end of this life I believe we'll find we were both wrong; I cannot hope to fully understand the mystery of my God.<BR/Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11193658.post-41088741631392245872007-04-24T00:50:00.000-05:002007-04-24T00:50:00.000-05:00blah blah blah...hey, thanks for playing but this ...blah blah blah...hey, thanks for playing but this is me checking out of a meaningless fight with a so called "brother". In the end, neither one of us has to answer to each other for we'll stand before God, not our peers.<BR/><BR/>I really hope that God blesses you and your ministry in whatever way you chose to manifest your calling. As for me and my future family, my ministry will manifest Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com